Monday, April 07, 2008

On ties

I don't like them, but this may be useful nonetheless, something I found at Xanga:

Guide for the Modern Day Gentleman Part 3 - Neckties Continued

Guide for the Modern Day Gentleman Part 2 - Neckties

His musings on what it means to be a gentleman these days: The Modern Day Gentleman – Part 1. I think he concedes too much to modernity, but then again maybe he's perfectly fine with modernity.

I remember someone claiming he didn't like them because they were "Protestant." Well, that isn't exactly true, I don't think, since the tie came from the cravat, which was adopted by the French in the 17th century. According to wiki, they had in turn borrowed it from Croatian mercenaries. (Both Catholic peoples.)

Being rather pragmatic when it comes to clothing, I tend to dislike the cravat because it is a hindrance to, let's be plain about this, combat and a liability, just like long hair. While it is true that they were worn by Croatian mercenaries and soldiers since then, I nonetheless am suspicious of them. Ancient Roman and Chinese soldiers may have worn scarves and such, but that would be for warmth (or for use as a towel), not for appearance?

Perhaps I'm making excuses. But I also don't like it's socio-economic class associations. (I don't like the Regency period that much.)

Oh well. I have to admit that the cravats and waistcoats at this site are attractive. I'll wear a tie reluctantly because of custom; maybe with money to provide for an ostentatious wardrobe I'd enjoy ties more.

More on the History of the Cravat/Necktie:
Jane Austen Centre Magazine: Neckcloths, Cravats, Stocks, Solitaires, Jabots & Macaronis
Regency Reproductions - Historical OverviewMen's Fashion of the 18th Century 1
British fashion and clothing in the 18th and 19th century, the .
19th Century Collars and Ties
History of ties, tie history, necktie history
Father's Day : History of Necktie
Victorian cravat / necktie / neck tie, deluxe (Civil War clothing ...
Victorian Neckties and Cravats
A Colonial Gentlemen's Clothing: A Glossary of Terms
Neckties History at ABC Neckties -

what the cravat replaced: bands and ruffs
Recreating 16th and 17th Century Clothing: The Renaissance Tailor
Elizabethan Ruffs

More How-to Guides: | Learn How to Tie a Tie
How To Tie A Tie - Presented by
HOW TO TIE A CRAVAT Neckwear Gentlemen's Wedding Neckwear
How To Tie A Cravat (Beauty & Style: Style For Men)
85 Ways to Tie a Necktie (this is the link that works: The Mathematical Theory of Tie Knots)

Necktie Aficionado - Where To Buy Men's Silk Neckties


Silk Ties - Silk Neckties - Silk Neck Ties - Men's Silk Neckties ...
Necktie,Neckties,Luxury Cufflinks,Uniform Necktie-
Handmade Silk Cravats for cravat lovers - Beau Ties Ltd.


Iosue Andreas Sartorius said...

Said the great Lin Yutang: "I have a hankering to go back to the Orient and discard my necktie. Neckties strangle clear thinking."

davidwhite214 said...

Old fashion style still looks good. The man wearing american suit with a tie looks very elegant.