A Latin Traditionalist Fantasy

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An Interview with the Provincial Superior of ICKSP

Crisis: ‘The Love of Tradition Brings People Together’ by Francis Lee



YT Channel

Good Friday - Mass of the Presanctified

Dr. Mahrt Reviews the Mass of Americas

At the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception.

NLM

Bishop Schneider to Be in San Jose

Headed to San Jose

June 12: Event: Msgr. Gilles Wach (ICR) Solemn High Mass in California

Some ICKSP Videos

Linking for the Video

NLM: News from the ICKSP in England

ICKSP US Ordinations

Items of Interest, 4 May 2012

M.E. Bradford' s Constitutional Theory: A Southern Conservative's Affirmation of The Rule of Law by Marshall DeRosa

PJB, A Decade of War for What?
Obama's 2024 Afghan 'Transition' Deal Not Convincing Everyone
What Is the Proper Role of Military Power

H. L. Mencken: The Joyous Libertarian by Murray N. Rothbard

The Panderer-in-Chief's Pitch for the Female Vote: The Life of Julia
Welmer: Meet Julia
The Men in Julia's Life
Jack Welch, Julia and the fallacy of working women ‘having it all’

False autonomy and empowerment disguised as radical equality, false because it is only possible through the government (and the enslavement of men to pay for it) - evil. (D/d)emocrats should be despised - their policies destroy family and community by destroying female responsibility.

The Contraception Mandate and Secular Discourse by R. J. Snell

How Patriarchy Crubmled: Silent Assent

Everything But Sex, Everything But Divorce

Liberalism Is Bad for Literature by Mark Bauerlein (marriage and courtship)


Democracy's Arc by John Michael Greer

Fred Reed, Enstupidation

Liberals will interpret things their way:
Five Lessons in Human Goodness from “The Hunger Games”
By Jeremy Adam Smith

Kevin Gutzman:
James Madison and the Making of America
The Virginians

Economics:
Ethical Labor

Is It Possible To Build An Economy Without Jobs? by Frank Joyce

Why are we striking? Or to put it another way – what’s wrong with the world?

Farming:
On Being a Worthy Heir of the Agrarian Contrarians (makes mention of Gene Logsdon)
Wendell Berry, Hater and Idealogue

Beyond Fossilized Paradigms: Futureconomics of Food
The economics of the future is based on people and biodiversity - not fossil fuels, toxic chemicals and monocultures.
by Vandana Shiva
In the Rain, Alice Waters Visits School Gardens to Celebrate Hard Work and Edible Education
Full Circle Farm: A New Level of Community

Factory Food is Making Us Dumber and Dumber

Shannon Hayes, One Chicken, Three Meals: The Best Bargain at the Farmers’ Market

Peak Oil and Energy:
Seven myths used to debunk peak oil, debunked by Andrew McKay (EB)

Living for free: a community thriving by recycling other people's waste


Diet and Health:
The 4-Hour Work Week

MovNat N. Am. Workshops

Catholic:


Benedict XVI, On the Prayer of the First Christian Martyr

Relics of 6 Martyred Priests Tour US

From Pagan Cosmos to Christian Creation: A Historical Path from Late Antique Priscillianus to Medieval Hildegard

Orthodox:
"Svenskaya" (Kiev Caves) Icon


Masculinity:
F. Roger Devlin reviews Jack Donovan's book: The Origins of Manliness

How Chemicals Affect UsBy NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

The Stark Truth: Andy Nowicki in Defense of Squares (mp3)

Music:
Cappella Artemisia


Jubal's Kin, Boy Blue


Delta Goodrem:




How to build a better trebuchet

TV:
NPR with Steven Moffat

Misc:
Gear Blog: Interview with an Arc'teryx Designer

College Dropout Jason Padgett Becomes Accidental Mathematical Geniusu After Brutal Mugging

A day at the International Seminary of the Institute of Christ the King

A Day In The Life Of A Seminarian

St. Philllip Neri Seminary in Gricigliano

Another vid.

Canon Moreau leaving

A piece of news via Rorate Caeli: a Pontifical Solemn Mass will be celebrated tomorrow by Bishop Cordileone at 12:30, on occasion of Canon Jean Marie Moreau's transfer. He will be replaced by Canon Henry Fragelli.

Communion Des Saints

The latest cd from the Institute of Christ the King, Sovereign Priest. (French)

Photos from the recent [American] priests' retreat.

The Institute Has a New CD

The Communion of the Saints


(via Fr. CS)

The Institute of Christ the King in Tucson

Looks like good things continue to happen in Tucson: Confirmations & Pontifical Low Mass in Tucson. (Link via Rorate Caeli.) Unfortunately none of my family members there are practicing Catholics.

The blog of the founder of the St. Gianna Latin Mass Community, Fr. Richard J. Rego, who passed away in 2007--may our Lord receive him unto an everlasting reward.

The 2007 CD from the Institute. I have their first CD; I'm not so interested in this one -- more of the Solesmes interpretation.

Alt site.

Bishop Cordileone Celebrates Solemn Pontifical High Mass at St. Margaret Mary

NLM: Bishop Cordileone's Pontifical Mass
Veritatem Facientes in Caritate: Part 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (plus some photos of the practice sessions)

The Veritatem Facientes in Caritate posts also have clips of the Mass.

Photos at the website for the Institute of Christ the King.

I was going to upload some pictures from this event, which took place two Sundays ago, but I had been unable to do so for a few reasons, the most serious of which is that my computer was not working. I should try to upload some this weekend.

Now for some reactions:

Almost everyone has high expectations of the new bishop. I was pleased by his homily, though I remember very little of it. He talked about how we should be living in Christ. I wish I remembered more of it. To be honest, I thought the homily could have used a bit more theological precision, but maybe that isn't necessary for the average layperson. A lot of people walked up to him after the reception to greet him and have a photo taken with him. I thought about doing so, but decided not to... he's not my bishop after all, even though I have high expectations of him as well.

Some reflections about the liturgy--

As for the liturgy itself, it was what I expected from the ICRSS and an long-established "Latin Mass" community. Low mass rubricism was prevelant -- the laity were once again just doing what the clerics were doing, instead of their proper part. Does the Institute try to educate the faithful about what they should be doing during a Solemn High Mass? Is the obstacle to change on the part of the members of the Institute or of the faithful? All too often this is just how things are done here in America, but a real liturgical revival requires moving beyond preserving local customs that are incorrect, does it not? The liturgical movement of the 20th century aspired to help the laity re-appropriate the liturgy by becoming familiar with their parts.

There was the use of cover music to cover "dead time" -- when the clerics were doing something, but the laity were not really doing anything. What is liturgically appropriate music during the vesting and unvesting of a bishop, for example? A litany? A hymn to the Blessed Mother? What is the solution in the other rites?

Is it accurate to say that in the Missal of Paul VI, the former private prayers of the priest at the foot of the altar have been made the prayers of all, in the new introductory and penitential rites? (Sorry, I do not have the technical names for those parts of the Pauline liturgy of the eucharist.)

I do wonder about Gregorian chant as well... are there "too many notes," to quote a certain emperor in Amadeus? If one compares the propers with Greek Byzantine or Melkite sacred music, the singing might be more complicated (it may even use a scale with more notes!), but it doesn't linger as much on each word? This can make it difficult to focus on the meaning of the text? Perhaps I am just not proficient enough in Latin. But what is the average layman doing when the propers are being sung?

Should EF communities not provide some sort of training in music and Latin for its members?

Regarding polyphony -- I might change my mind after hearing works of polyphony, like what I have been posting this past week. Those pieces were quite beautiful... But when they are sung within the context of the eucharistic liturgy, it is easy to be distracted, especially when one does not have a copy of the text to follow along. Vocal prayer is much easier for me at a low Mass, or Mass with straightforward chants (like a Melkite liturgy). It doesn't necessarily have to be in English -- it could be in Latin, like Lauds or Vespers. Can one "actively" pray the text while it is being sung polyphonically? Is listening to the words the only possible option?

Should there be certain texts reserved specifically for the cantor/schola? Or should the singing and praying of the propers be given to the faithful as much as possible?

Are the words of the liturgy to be intelligible to the faithful? Is this the ultimate criterion by which the debate between the use of Latin and a hieratic version of the vernacular be resolved? I am not persuaded by the argument that having the liturgy in an ancient language one cannot understand adds to the sense of mystery. The mysteries expressed by the liturgy cannot be fully comprehensible, even if the texts are intelligible, but what is the purpose of the liturgy? And what sort of participation by the laity is to be brought about? It may be easy now to say that the faithful should have bilingual missals, but what happens when money becomes an issue for the average family?

On finding a wife--

There were a lot of chapel veils to be seen; some of the married women even wore black veils, but I suspect that not all of the women wearing white veils were single. The ones who are married should wear black veils, no? It would help single men know if they are available or not. (Haha.) It would seem that most of the unmarried women who are of age have boyfriends; would I go back to St. Margaret Mary again? I am not sure.

I don't know if a traditionalist would be a suitable match. While I am familiar with the EF, there is still a gap in culture and spirituality between me and most traditionalists. Minor differences, you might say, but maybe they are not so minor after all? My own "liturgical preference" is still rather fluid. I haven't really settled one a particular form of the Roman rite, and I still mull over switching to an Eastern rite (though that looks less and less likely as time passes). At times I prefer an OF low mass in English celebrated somewhat well -- while ad lib petitions bother me, and other abuses may be present, at least there is no bad music in an OF low mass.

Many traditionalists have a "rigorist" attitude towards matters liturgical and also culture. To say that they return the Church to the '50s may be a caricature of their understanding of liturgy and theology (though some may believe that the low mass is the norm). But they are comfortable with mid-2oth century cultural norms and forms. I can't say that I am attached to mid-20th century American fashion or mores.

Maybe a woman associated with Opus Dei would be a better fit. (As opposed to Regnum Christi, which is tainted and suspect -- do its members have a cultist mentality, or worse, a twisted spirituality?) I haven't really met too many women who are associated with Opus Dei, and the ones I have can be as Yankee as anyone else.


Begun on September 24, 2009.

Apparently Canon Talarico will be serving at Bishop Cordileone's Mass at St. Margaret Mary on Sunday. I haven't talked to him since he was at SGA as a student.

Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary

Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary - July 28, 2009 - part 1


Abbe Joel Estrada gave a presentation for the parishioners of St. Margaret Mary's (Oakland, California, USA) last July 28, 2009, about life and spirituality at the seminary of the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, located in Gricigliano, near Florence, Italy. He shares his story on how he got to know about the Institute, through St. Margaret Mary, when he used to be a parishioner back in 2006. Abbe Estrada is an incoming third year student at the St. Phillip Neri Seminary, but has spent the last couple of weeks of July assisting Canon Jean-Marie Moreau at the Institute Apostolate parish of St. Margaret Mary. A previous presentation was given to the Young Adults class last July 21, but this presentation had different topics not brought up last week.

Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary - July 28, 2009 - part 2
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary - July 28, 2009 - part 3
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary - July 28, 2009 - part 4
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary - July 28, 2009 - part 5
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary - July 28, 2009 - part 6
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary - July 28, 2009 - part 7
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary - July 28, 2009 - part 8

Presentation for the Young Adult Catechism Group:
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary (part 1)
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary (part 2)
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary (part 3)
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary (part 4)
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary (part 5)
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary (part 6)
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary (part 7)
Life & Spirituality at the ICRSS Seminary (part 8)

Compare the Institute's ordinations at Gricigliano with the recent ordinations of the diocese of San Jose, with respect to ceremony and appearances.



I have to say, the blue is growing on me.


FSSP ordinations: Lincoln and Wigratzbad
IBP (update)
NLM: Episcopal Consecration in Croatia (Byzantine Rite)