A Latin Traditionalist Fantasy

Still one of the best pics to come out of American Catholicism pic.twitter.com/L3DtAf4t70

— Nicholas (@BluegrassPapist) September 13, 2021

Someone Is Noticing

What stood out most about the 2020 Census was that for the first time in its longstanding history, the number of white Americans dropped by nine percent and now comprise less than 60% of the nation. https://t.co/RSybVGuQJp

— Michael J. Matt (@Michael_J_Matt) August 27, 2021

Michael Warren Davis Defends Bergoglio

NEW: "Like most pessimists, Francis has acclimated to a sense of dissolution, of decay. He sees it as his mission to pilot the Western Church as it returns to its lowest point since the Neronian persecutions." https://t.co/ZcisrI2AXd

— The American Conservative (@amconmag) July 24, 2021

But Inculturation Has a Place

Latin traditionalists who believe in ecclesial empire and external uniformity as unity will never agree.

« I am an African. Let me say clearly : the liturgy is not the place to promote my culture. Rather, it is the place where my culture is baptised, where my culture is taken up into the Divine. » The power of silence, against the dictatorship of noise. pic.twitter.com/MrS34lIiKQ

— Cardinal R. Sarah (@Card_R_Sarah) July 20, 2021

Traditionis Custodes: What a Joke of a Title

#PopeFrancis issues Apostolic Letter ‘Traditionis Custodes’ in the form of a motu proprio on the use of the Roman Liturgy prior to the reforms of 1970 https://t.co/A9Sh5nXnoD

— Edward Pentin (@EdwardPentin) July 16, 2021

‘I pray that the faithful will not give way to the discouragement which such harshness necessarily engenders but will, with the help of divine grace, persevere in their love of the Church and of her pastors,’ Cardinal Raymond Burke told @EdwardPentinhttps://t.co/PbASLfvtUu

— National Catholic Register (@NCRegister) July 16, 2021

The discovery of the Traditional Latin Mass, which had only recently been reauthorized by Pope Benedict, was among the key factors in my reversion from atheism to the Faith, as it was for countless young Catholics. A devastating decision: https://t.co/ioPnaO7lgY

— Michael Knowles (@michaeljknowles) July 16, 2021

The Case for Patriarchy

FINALLY...the CASE FOR PATRIARCHY is here...after years of waiting.

On pre-order today:https://t.co/MhNEM7Yy8a

— Timothy Gordon (@timotheeology) July 10, 2021

How Many American Latin Traditionalists

would be Latin traditionalists if:

1. They didn't have a Latin hyperlegalist mindset?
2. Had a strong identity as an American?
3. Had a strong community outside of their parish?

Nothing Can Shake the Faith of a Latin Traditionalist

Not even a heretical pope.

Kwasniewski:

Some are likely to draw those conclusions, but not those who can see that a Petrine primacy is part of the deposit of faith, and that the Church herself has infallibility and indefectibility. How this will all get worked out is the mess we are currently dealing with.

A Reminder to Latin Traditionalists

VATICAN—@ctrlamb of @The_Tablet writes:

“The Holy See is conducting a world-wide survey of the traditional Latin Mass focussing on whether celebrations of the Tridentine liturgy respond to genuine pastoral needs and are following guidelines.”https://t.co/AIvVo6onLx

— Bree A Dail (@breeadail) April 22, 2021

What Tim Gordon Has Been Doing

More details out soon! Release date, where to watch, etc. https://t.co/KL0aiNJ9f3

— Timothy Gordon (@timotheeology) April 13, 2021

Damian Thompson on the Neo-Integralists

Medieval fantasists have infiltrated America’s Catholic right: me for @SpectatorUSA https://t.co/OwEiJ403YA pic.twitter.com/7IztNn80i0

— Damian Thompson (@holysmoke) February 25, 2021

Really, just a waste of time, and no better than an extended tweet. He thinks that liberalism is the reigning ideology, when it's not, and his acceptance of liberalism disqualifies him from giving any sound judgment regarding politike. The oligarchs don't take Latin integralists seriously as threats, and if they decide to suppress Roman Catholics, they will do so on all believing Roman Catholics, regardless of whether they profess Latin integralism or not.

The Real Crisis of Legitimacy

on many levels, is that Massimo Faggioli holds an academic position at a supposed Catholic university.

The USCCB is out of step not only with the new president, but also with many in the Catholic flock, as well as with the Vatican.

It's nothing less, writes @MassimoFaggioli, than a crisis of legitimacy: https://t.co/3keKuSutz6

— Commonweal Magazine (@commonwealmag) February 3, 2021

Meanwhile, his patriarch at work...

Healing Traditionalism? Heck, “physician, heal thyself.”https://t.co/5kve6Yy34L

— John Stone (@Johnthemadmonk) February 4, 2021

A Home Altar for a Latin Traditionalist

Look at how the Apostolic Movement of Schoenstatt turned out. What are Latin traditionalists doing to combat creeping statism insteaed? Probably nothing.

I am not Surprised

I am not surprised by this. I am opposed to actual sin; but I also oppose the demonizing of any sort of valid love or preference by calling it a sin of -ism or anti -ism, and any people who justly uphold the order of charity, or the demonization of those who refuse to submit to liberalism or a false nationalism promoted by the state.

This is how dumb the Left is: they call me racist even as I have a rule against racism in the forty RULES FOR RETROGRADES (and yes, I would cheer wildly for Pope Sarah) https://t.co/vhzLLmXHmI pic.twitter.com/0fjzy9H0Iu

— Timothy Gordon (@timotheeology) January 1, 2021

Even Latin Traditionalists are White Knights for Feminism

We cannot allow them to crush our spirit or derail our resolve. The fight will go on and, in many ways, we're stronger and more united now than ever. pic.twitter.com/1lXLUlXv7o

— Michael J. Matt (@Michael_J_Matt) November 6, 2020

[Paleo-]Libertarians aren't much better...

Looking for good news from this election? Americans just elected AT LEAST SIX more CONSERVATIVE women to Congress! I look forward to serving with @laurenboebert, @mtgreenee, @Kat_Cammack, @NancyMace & @Yvette4congress!

And my friend @CynthiaMLummis will be back as a Senator!

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) November 6, 2020

Unite the Clans 2020

BREAKING: Catholic Identity Conference 2020 full steam ahead and, thanks to a Trump-appointed federal judge, we'll be at full capacity in Pittsburgh. Plus, what exactly do I mean by #UNITEtheCLANS? https://t.co/n7R2fkMKz6

— Michael J. Matt (@Michael_J_Matt) September 17, 2020

These Latin traditionalists will be supporting Trump. Do they have a plan for what happens when Trump leaves the White House?

He Needs to Find a Better Way to Win Hearts and Minds

Letters, statements, videos, and tweets are not acceptable.

NCRep: Bishop Barron hosts invite-only meeting to discuss 'rad trads,' online vitriol (via Fr. Z)

Latin bishops, including the bishop of Rome, will have to reconsider the distinction between dogma and theologoumena, including what they have accepted as dogma concerning their own authority. Until that happens, there will be no ecclesial reform.

A Latin Would Say This

Since the Church’s tradition includes the Second Vatican Council, it's therefore impossible to repudiate Vatican II and claim to be a faithful traditionalist. There's nothing traditional about rejecting an ecumenical council. Learn more:https://t.co/1LnqmJ1Hs1 (2/2)

— Bishop Robert Barron (@BishopBarron) July 22, 2020

Non-Latins will disagree on the status accorded to Vatican II by most Latins.

The Soul of the Apostolate Conference

NLM

Soul of the Apostolate 2020: For every 1 convert, 6.5 leave the Church. The world is in chaos. What is the solution? Catholic Apostolic leaders unite to emphatically declare: the “one thing necessary”... the spiritual life.

Not all of the speakers are committed Latin traditionalists, as far as I know.

FSSP parishes may be growing in size, and they think that what is traditional or the "tried and true" may prevent them from losing members, but attendance at the EF is not sufficient to secure this outcome. The spiritual life is important but it cannot be separated from the proper exercise of the virtues, and while there are Latin men who are moving over to the EF (or have never left since they were children), whether this can be sustained over to the next generation and yet be effective at evangelization remains to be seen.

Over at Rorate Caeli: On Submission to Forms: On the Putative Equality of the “Two Forms” of the Roman Rite by Anthony Jones

From a Byzantine pov, Kwasniewski's essay on the Byzantine rite compared with the two forms of the Roman rite has problems, so it shouldn't have been used as a serious argument for the EF being superior to the OF (with or without qualifications), which the author doesn't really provide apart from citing Kwasniewski's essay.

Should there be one form of the Roman rite for the Church of Rome? Probably. Should there be just one form of the Roman rite, or just the Roman rite for the entire patriarchate of Rome? That is debatable. But Latin traditionalists like to give their opinion regarding universal prescriptions for the entire patriarchate, rather than concede that local Churches may have different solutions. This is part of the centralizing mindset.

Two Items for Latin Traditionalists

via Fr. Z: VIDEO VIRTUAL CONFERENCE by Latin Mass Society (UK): 18 JULY 2020 – Catholicism in a COVID-19 World

July 18


via Rorate Caeli: