Showing posts with label Louis Bouyer. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Louis Bouyer. Show all posts
Wednesday, June 25, 2014
Sunday, July 21, 2013
An interview with Dom Alcuin Reid about Sacra Liturgia 2013
CWR: The Future of Liturgical Formation and Renewal
CWR: Given this, how did the conference explore the relationship between liturgical renewal and the New Evangelization?
Dom Reid: This relationship is the raison d’être for Sacra Liturgia 2013. Bishop Rey is not a liturgical scholar, he is diocesan bishop, and it is from the standpoint of that particular vocation that he so profoundly appreciates the role of the liturgy. As he said in his introduction to the conference: “As a bishop it is my duty to do all I can to promote the New Evangelization initiated by Blessed John Paul II...the New Evangelization must be founded on the faithful and fruitful celebration of the Sacred Liturgy as given to us by the Church in her tradition—Western and Eastern.” When first we discussed the possibility of a conference this focus was clear and we invited speakers to base their considerations on it.
Abbot Nault made some important observations about this. Drawing on the work of Louis Bouyer he noted that the liturgy “cannot be reduced to being an instrument for something else, which would end up being a pick-and-mix of catechesis, formation for Christian living, and ritual;” i.e., the liturgy is not primarily a tool of catechesis or evangelization. Rather, he argued that “a correct ‘use’ of the liturgy” is necessary, “a ‘use’ which can be a source of great pastoral and evangelical fruitfulness.” As he pointed out, “it is only when we let liturgy be ‘useless’ that it reveals the extent of its ‘usefulness’ in the life of the Church and the New Evangelization!”
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Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Items of Interest, 25 July 2012
Ralph Nader, Prisons As Growth Industry
Kevin Carson, The Predictable “Scandal” At The FDA
Taki, The Magic Mystery of Monarchy
The Confederate Colonel:
The Cultural Destruction of England
Romney on The Confederate Flag
Top 10 All-American Food Myths: What You Don’t Know About Our Food Chain Will Shock You
Building a civil economy by Adrian Pabst (EB)
I thought it was interesting that Vox refers to Ugo Bardi - Complexity and the fall of empires I. I can't recall if he's discussed peak oil.
The mayor of Boston is making life difficult for Chick-Fil-A: Michelle Malkin, Hey, Boston: Leave Chick-fil-A Alone. Looks like he's not the only one: Chicago Alderman to Chick-fil-A: No deal
Chick-Fil-A is still a chain and not an ideal form of business organization for many reasons. The company probably relies on CAFOs for its chickens. Let those politicians seeking to impose their PC values on the company do so; give those who support a more traditional view of morality their own space and leave them alone, then. It's unfortunate that the LoS and other organizations are not that effective in building up regional identities and independence.
So the Muppets are now being used as a front for PC causes? It's time to do away with mass entertainment, now matter how much we may have enjoyed it as children. Hicks: Muppets break ties with Chick-fil-A over gay marriage
Opponents can't stomach Chick-fil-A's plans in Mountain View
The SJ store is set to open on August 16.
Catholic:
Student Design for a Proposed Benedictine Monastery
The Life and Thoughts of Cardinal Merry del Val - VII
Sarto and Merry del Val, communion of thoughts and ideals - and a long recess
Louis Bouyer and Church Architecture by Uwe Michael Lang
RESOURCING BENEDICT XVI'S THE SPIRIT OF THE LITURGY
SOFREP: Breaking Down the Pattern of Success by Randy Kelley
MovNat:
Resurgence article
ERWAN LE CORRE: THE 10 MOVNAT PRINCIPLES
Kevin Carson, The Predictable “Scandal” At The FDA
Taki, The Magic Mystery of Monarchy
The Confederate Colonel:
The Cultural Destruction of England
Romney on The Confederate Flag
Top 10 All-American Food Myths: What You Don’t Know About Our Food Chain Will Shock You
Building a civil economy by Adrian Pabst (EB)
I thought it was interesting that Vox refers to Ugo Bardi - Complexity and the fall of empires I. I can't recall if he's discussed peak oil.
The mayor of Boston is making life difficult for Chick-Fil-A: Michelle Malkin, Hey, Boston: Leave Chick-fil-A Alone. Looks like he's not the only one: Chicago Alderman to Chick-fil-A: No deal
Chick-Fil-A is still a chain and not an ideal form of business organization for many reasons. The company probably relies on CAFOs for its chickens. Let those politicians seeking to impose their PC values on the company do so; give those who support a more traditional view of morality their own space and leave them alone, then. It's unfortunate that the LoS and other organizations are not that effective in building up regional identities and independence.
So the Muppets are now being used as a front for PC causes? It's time to do away with mass entertainment, now matter how much we may have enjoyed it as children. Hicks: Muppets break ties with Chick-fil-A over gay marriage
Opponents can't stomach Chick-fil-A's plans in Mountain View
The SJ store is set to open on August 16.
Catholic:
Student Design for a Proposed Benedictine Monastery
The Life and Thoughts of Cardinal Merry del Val - VII
Sarto and Merry del Val, communion of thoughts and ideals - and a long recess
Louis Bouyer and Church Architecture by Uwe Michael Lang
RESOURCING BENEDICT XVI'S THE SPIRIT OF THE LITURGY
SOFREP: Breaking Down the Pattern of Success by Randy Kelley
MovNat:
Resurgence article
ERWAN LE CORRE: THE 10 MOVNAT PRINCIPLES
Thursday, July 23, 2009
Ivan Illich: What sort of Catholic?
Was Illich ever disciplined for his views? And what was the source of tension between him and the "Vatican"? The fact that he was so opposed to the political status quo? That he did not accept what certain members of the Curia were saying about development? Was he critical of the Church because he thought there was too much acceptance of what the industrialists and globalists, the moneyed elites, were putting forth as necessary for development?
Was he ever corrected for what he believed and said about contraception as being necessary, for the sake of sustainability? With regards to abortion, he disagrees with those who claim that fetuses are human. That does not mean he is necessarily wrong, since this is not a part of Sacred Tradition (as far as I can ascertain). But he also advocates the use of abortion as a form of contraception and population control. This is problematic.
Illich seems to believe that the Church has become corrupted by power, and is more concerned with maintaining power than with the practice of charity and the spreading of the Gospel. That is what I gather from the publisher's introduction to The Rivers North of the Future: The Testament of Ivan Illich, as told to David Cayley, foreword by Charles Taylor, Toronto: Anansi Press, 2004. 252 pp. If Illich is such a radical with respect to his views of the Church, why is Charles Taylor writing the foreword? The book is available at Google Books, so it's on my reading list.
From the discussion of Illich's life in the foreward and introduction we are told that Illich was critical of a rule-bound Christianity, which he believed to be a corrupted version. He was a radical in the sense that he called for a return to the early Church, one that was purified of the worldly institutional Church that is too entangled with politics and too grasping for power (6-9). (Another version of the thesis of the post-Constantinian Church being a corruption?)
Illich makes clear his objections to (privileged) people doing service work in a foreign country in To Hell with Good Intentions, including missionaries. Would he make the same criticisms of Catholic missionaries who are there to evangelize first, and to help bring clean water, etc. second?
Given his relationship with the Church and his [problematic] views, should he be trusted as an credible authority on [economic/industrial] development and its consequences? I think so, since these are not matters of Faith, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be read with a critical mind.
Richard Wall, A Turbulent Priest in the Global Village: Ivan Illich, 1926–2002
Notes:
Louis Bouyer, in The Church of God, talks about the two models of the Church (and of evangelization) - the Church of believers and the Church of numbers (22-25). He sees the transition between the former to the latter taking place after the Peace of Constantine, when Christianity became "socially acceptable" and soon was socially required.
Only those societies in which members have freely chosen to become Christian can be called Christian; those in which coercion is employed are problematic. But how is a Christian ruler to govern a Christian polity? How does he deal with non-Christians? What is the proper relationship between the Church and the State? What is the nature of the Church's authority over the baptized and civil governments? Illich, Bouyer, and other theologians and Christian intellectuals offer answers to these questions. What are Christians are to do once they gain control of civil authority? Our Lord does give a clear answer within Sacred Scripture, and Christians have been attempting to discern what to do, with the help of the Holy Spirit and the teaching of the Church. Does Illich have a romantic view of the early Church?
Was he ever corrected for what he believed and said about contraception as being necessary, for the sake of sustainability? With regards to abortion, he disagrees with those who claim that fetuses are human. That does not mean he is necessarily wrong, since this is not a part of Sacred Tradition (as far as I can ascertain). But he also advocates the use of abortion as a form of contraception and population control. This is problematic.
Illich seems to believe that the Church has become corrupted by power, and is more concerned with maintaining power than with the practice of charity and the spreading of the Gospel. That is what I gather from the publisher's introduction to The Rivers North of the Future: The Testament of Ivan Illich, as told to David Cayley, foreword by Charles Taylor, Toronto: Anansi Press, 2004. 252 pp. If Illich is such a radical with respect to his views of the Church, why is Charles Taylor writing the foreword? The book is available at Google Books, so it's on my reading list.
From the discussion of Illich's life in the foreward and introduction we are told that Illich was critical of a rule-bound Christianity, which he believed to be a corrupted version. He was a radical in the sense that he called for a return to the early Church, one that was purified of the worldly institutional Church that is too entangled with politics and too grasping for power (6-9). (Another version of the thesis of the post-Constantinian Church being a corruption?)
Illich makes clear his objections to (privileged) people doing service work in a foreign country in To Hell with Good Intentions, including missionaries. Would he make the same criticisms of Catholic missionaries who are there to evangelize first, and to help bring clean water, etc. second?
Given his relationship with the Church and his [problematic] views, should he be trusted as an credible authority on [economic/industrial] development and its consequences? I think so, since these are not matters of Faith, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be read with a critical mind.
Richard Wall, A Turbulent Priest in the Global Village: Ivan Illich, 1926–2002
Notes:
Louis Bouyer, in The Church of God, talks about the two models of the Church (and of evangelization) - the Church of believers and the Church of numbers (22-25). He sees the transition between the former to the latter taking place after the Peace of Constantine, when Christianity became "socially acceptable" and soon was socially required.
Only those societies in which members have freely chosen to become Christian can be called Christian; those in which coercion is employed are problematic. But how is a Christian ruler to govern a Christian polity? How does he deal with non-Christians? What is the proper relationship between the Church and the State? What is the nature of the Church's authority over the baptized and civil governments? Illich, Bouyer, and other theologians and Christian intellectuals offer answers to these questions. What are Christians are to do once they gain control of civil authority? Our Lord does give a clear answer within Sacred Scripture, and Christians have been attempting to discern what to do, with the help of the Holy Spirit and the teaching of the Church. Does Illich have a romantic view of the early Church?
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