Pillar Article on the ASP

A lot of Catholics have been paying attention to the American Solidarity Party in recent elections.

But can it actually succeed? And what does "success" mean for a third party, anyway. We talked to the ASP, and some political scientists, to find out.https://t.co/1kOYe9qcs7

— The Pillar (@PillarCatholic) July 16, 2021

ASP Still Trying

To conclude our 2021 @AmSolidarity Strategy Summit, ASP National Committeeman @IronProfessor gives a Final Exhortation for our viewers.https://t.co/Dd3NrhXJot

— Tai-Chi Kuo, JD, MBA 郭太極 (@TaiChiKuo) January 15, 2021

ASP the Christian Democrat Party

That won't acknowledge cultural Marxism or renounce it. So it is destined to be a fringe movement, even if ithe (R)s fail to transform the party to a populist one.

We are privileged to announce that @PatrickDeneen has graciously agreed to join our Board of Advisors. In recent years Dr. Deneen has written and advocated eloquently for a politics of the Common Good to renew our democracy. We hope to do our part in that effort. pic.twitter.com/rL3V3LhPGF

— American Solidarity Party (@AmSolidarity) November 8, 2020

The New Name of the American Solidarity Party

The Churchian Democratic Enablers of Cultural Marxism Party. The ASP will never be a serious threat to the oligarchy.

Another Endorsement for ASP

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"I’ve been told that voting third party is a privilege. I solemnly agree. I am using my privilege to vote for a future America, one in which we have more morally and politically acceptable major party candidates. We can do so much better."
- @KSPriorhttps://t.co/fKCG3Dht3O

— Brian Carroll 2020 (@BrianCarrollASP) October 28, 2020

Leah Libresco Sergeant for the ASP

https://t.co/2t6bEwWJ7i pic.twitter.com/rogvn59Idu

— Leah Libresco Sargeant (@LeahLibresco) October 12, 2020

Carter Snead's New Book

What It Means to Be Human

Argh early-morning typos. https://t.co/1hK46oTv5H

— Sohrab Ahmari (@SohrabAhmari) October 13, 2020

Snead wrote this for the NY Post: To heal America’s wounds, we need to recall that we belong to one another

His book on bioethics is probably good. But he is unprepared for identity politics. He implicitly recognizes that there are natural affinities:

We need an anthropology that recognizes that we come into the world as living bodies, embedded in families, communities, and histories that, as philosopher Michael Sandel says, we “neither summon nor command.”

And if conflicts should arise between different identity groups? Calls such as this for friendship, or even civility, will not suffice. When one is a professional intellectual, authentic community is generally lacking, so academics write of things they have not experienced.

A better anthropology and, therefore, a better politics must facilitate the creation of what the philosopher Alasdair MacIntyre calls “networks of uncalculated giving and graceful receiving,” in which we make the goods of others our own. To create and sustain such networks, we must practice the virtues of just generosity, hospitality, misericordia (accompaniment of others in their suffering), gratitude, humility, openness to the unbidden, tolerance of imperfection, solidarity, respect for dignity and honesty.

In other words, we must embrace the virtues of authentic friendship. We must remember our embodiment and what it means. And then, God willing, we will remember that we belong to one another.

They may think they have some sort of community with (some of) their colleagues, but how many of their colleagues would pass the zombie apocalypse thought experiment/test and qualify as true friends? Even if they do have (male) friends who pass that test, how many such friends do they have? Probably not even enough to fill a rifle platoon. And yet they think they are qualified to talk about community, "bcuz credential." They may think they have some sort of community with (some of) their colleagues, but how many of their colleagues would pass the zombie apocalypse thought experiment/test and qualify as true friends? The same criticism could be levelled at those associated with the American Solidarity Party. I don't expect much from professional (D) and (R) pols. But if the ASP wants to advertise itself as being different, there better be some actual basis for it, other than some sort of identity as Christian Democrats or adherence to Roman Catholic Social Teaching. Prove yourselves the trad. and natural way, not with mass politics.

A Chance in 2024?

Why You Should Vote for the American Solidarity Party in November @CCamosy https://t.co/GV87wRQO8L via @PublicDiscourse

— Public Discourse (@PublicDiscourse) October 1, 2020

OSV: One election. Four points of view. And a model for charitable political dialogue. The Catholic case for Brian Carroll of the American by Charles Camosy

https://t.co/2t6bEwWJ7i pic.twitter.com/rogvn59Idu

— Leah Libresco Sargeant (@LeahLibresco) October 12, 2020

We don't need more people who want a turn running the state because they think they're especially qualified (in this case, because they believe in some version of RC Social Teaching, are Christian Democrats, etc.) The people who are associated with the ASP, afaik, have no experience building up true communities -- they wouldn't pass the zombie apocalypse thought experiment/test because they probably couldn't find enough friends to fill a platoon, much less, a company, true friends who would cover they're back in an actual conflict. Think you are worthy of political leadership? Prove it the natural way, instead of relying on modern political machines.

I don't give the (D)s and (R)s a pass for being the sort of people who would seek power but I don't expect much from the people and currently there are few exceptions who would surpass my expectations in a good way. Having the "right ideas" is not enough to make you different from the typical (D)s and (R)s and I expect more from those who think they are offering an alternative, even an alternative way of understanding the political life. What's your experience in living this alternative?

Blue-Pilled Feminist

Another reason not to vote for him as an "alternative."

What if we offered incentives for couples that stayed together? Lets not send so many men to prison. Instead lets find creative ways to reintegrate men into the family (ex. combo of work training, life-skills, parenting classes, + reward efforts to accept more responsibilities?).

— Brian Carroll 2020 (@BrianCarrollASP) October 7, 2020

From his FB post: "After Great Society programs of the 1960s began to pick up the responsibilities of absent fathers, it became easier for fathers to be absent. For a generation of children who grew up in father-absent homes, this is the new normal. It also leads to a situation in which single mothers are stressed out with too many responsibilities and unattached men are idle, with insufficient responsibilities to keep them busy."

He links to this from Desert News: a href="https://www.deseret.com/indepth/2020/10/4/21454643/child-care-policy-families-congress-universal-health-paid-family-leave-medicaid-eitc-allowance">Are there government policies that will help the American family? We asked the experts

Related:

This sounds remarkably like @BrianCarrollASP and @AmSolidarity Statement of Principals: https://t.co/MTJecxa9fb

— birdsbard (@birdsbard) October 7, 2020

No thanks.

NuAmerican Problems

The False Meritocracy by Amar Patel

Can NuAmericans ever be free from emotional negativity that they should expect from being immigrants to another country? A sense of "belonging" is not a human right but must be earned, and outsiders or foreigners must do their part to be accepted by a real community. So why should we accept a NuAmerican as one of the standard-bearers for the ASP? What has he done to actually integrate himself into an actual American people, rather than rely on his citizenship and civic nationalist identity?

Here's the other standard-bearer:

"I am forty-six years old—the same age as #GeorgeFloyd. What if George had been born into my life and I into his?"@CarrollVPOTUS discusses #racism, #individualism, & our false #meritocracy on the @AmSolidarity blog:https://t.co/129xHDoanu

— Brian Carroll 2020 (@BrianCarrollASP) June 2, 2020

The ASP Candidate

CNA/CWR: He won’t win. So why is Brian Carroll running for president?

A comment at CWR:
"Trump was a fluke who was not acceptable to the duopoly, and even now many Republicans in the Federal legislature oppose him, as well as those who control the Republican party at all levels. The only possible benefit from this attempt at mass politics is that people may get to know other people who live near them who share their values and network, but networking is not enough by itself to make a community."

His website and FB page.

Catholic Herald: Pro-life but not Republicans: meet the American Solidarity Party

There are those who like to signal online to others about their conscience or choosing a candidate who fully aligns with their beliefs, making a principled choice. But they are statist in their beliefs about the Federal Government, just like many of the "National Conservatives" and Latin integralists as well. Fortunately, the great majority of them would not back up their beliefs with the force of arms if they had the choice.

The Aspiration of Some in the American Solidarity Party

is to turn it into a "Catholic" party, in platform if not in membership.

Breitbart: Pope Francis: No Place for a ‘Catholic Party’ in Politics

Does Francis' political pluralism have a place for ethnonationalists or the alternative right? I doubt it.

Solidarity

Tilting at windmills? Cal Catholic Daily has an article on the American Solidarity Party.

First Things: The Politics of Solidarity

FB
Group: Christian Democracy USA

Mere Orthodoxy article
Aleteia


A Different Conservatism
The American Solidarity Party makes the case for community and subsidiarity.
By Malloy Owen •

"The Solidarists also diverge sharply from Trump on a number of his signature issues. One is immigration: the ASP platform calls unabashedly for amnesty, takes a jab at border walls, and implies that global inequality makes immigration “a necessity” for many workers."

What is the party's stance on feminism? Is American Solidarity Party a true Christian Democrat Party? Or churchian Democrat Party? It seems to be trying to replace the Democratic party but I don't think it will go anywhere because it does not acknowledge the concerns that what's left of white America has with its culture, identity, and nation.

Solidarity Hall promotes a similar "third option" and seems to involve more Catholics.

Who else will stand for economic liberty? Or distributism or some other economic "third way"? People associated with Solidarity Hall seem to be communitarians who value the common good and solidarity, but without any knowledge of how communities come into being, and often without any concern for proper scale. Solidarity is mentioned as a principle of Roman Catholic Social Teaching and is not really distinct from legal justice or political friendship, but seems to be an amalgam of the two. But these Christian "solidarists" like to moralize on certain issues (immigration, social justice) and are probably leftists in that respect. They assume that community exists but they do not understand that it doesn't, nor do they understand how it originates. For this reason they will continue to be ignored while ethnonationalism continues to rise.

Related:
America Magazine on Solidarity Hall
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